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Foodies & Classism

Kevin leaves this in the comments of my recent post about foie gras:

Amusing, isn’t it… Kate talking about “classism”. Being a foodie is as “classist” or “elitist” as one can be.

Kevin, my apologies for misinterpretting your initial comments as agressive trolling. I’ve deleted the comments I initially left in this area. But I do still take issue with your approach.

While I typically avoid labels of most sort (as they are limiting and are mostly caricatures of generalizations), I recognize that they have the ability to provide context to those who may are unfamiliar with them. “Foodies” (a term I dislike, but eh, am not too concerned about) falls into the basic restrictions that all labels provide.

That being said, here’s my take. “Foodies” will go anywhere their resources will allow in order to get a good meal. It doesn’t matter if the meal comes from a hot dog vendor selling sausages out of a cart on a corner or if it comes from a five star restaurant. A good meal is a good meal, no matter whence it came.

A “classist” is someone who avoids people, places or things because it would associate them with a group of people opposite of the social class which they are comfortable.

No, the word you’re looking for is “snob”, or as I like to refer to myself , “picky”.

You see, I have no issue in openly showing my disdain for products such as the $100 bottle of vodka, or the $4 pack of Kraft singles. I mock these products, not because they represent a clas of people that make me uncomfortable, but rather for the fact that these products either:

  1. are massively overpriced…or
  2. taste like overprocessed chemical filler…or
  3. both.

That’s not to say that there are no classists who are foodies. There are a few, most of them being the type who buy the expensive vodkas or eat only at the five star restaurants exclusively. But you’ll find most of these folks care more about status than food.

As for the “elitist” term – I’m not even sure I know what the word means. The foodies I know are far too busy searching for the perfect home-brew beer recipe or the best place to buy barbecue to claim any elite status. Perhaps you meant “strangely obsessed”?

UPDATE: I’ve gotten a note from Kevin, where he has clarified his position a bit further. While initially thinking his comment was a troll bait, I’ve since reconsidered my opinion of Kevin. I’ve updated this post to reflect this.


We get Letters v.9 – The Lower Class and Whole Foods

From the inbox:

I’ve been reading the posts about Whole Foods versus Safeway that was put up by Jack, and while I completely agree with him about the over-processed, over-packaged stuff they are passing off as food, I have to wonder, what do people who can’t afford to buy from Whole Foods do?

What if you’re a single mom in the inner city? Do you know of any organizations that reach out to these people? Any way they can get good food for their kids, and do they even know how to prepare it?

Just wondering.

Cheers,
Noelle.

Thank you for your e-mail Noelle. Your point is a very salient one. Yet there is a difficulty when writing about poverty, in that certain presumptions can often take away the dignity of the poor. My hope is that I avoid that pitfall.

It is important to distinguish the difference between Whole Foods and the products they sell. Whole Foods has made a name for themselves and have popped up in mainly middle to upper middle class neighborhoods. They do up the prices on many of their products because the market can bear it.

The produce they sell may be able to be found at other locations. But this is where it gets difficult. Not all products found at Whole Foods can be found at one other singular location. Generally, supermarkets in lower class neighborhoods have lesser quality and lesser selection. But one can often find better quality produce at lesser prices at markets in various ethnic neighborhoods. Here in Seattle, the cheapest produce is not found at Pike Place Market, but rather the markets in the International District.

The largest issue that Whole Foods brings to the rich/poor debate is that of resource allocation. That resource is not money, but of time. Whole Foods allows one stop shopping for a variety of products, often with the benefit of the customer’s own transportation.

The lower class, often dependant on public transportation, would need to spend several hours going from place to place to get similar products at lower prices. It should go without saying that the lower class typically cannot afford to spend that amount of time shopping for food.

One could argue that Whole Foods uses manipulation and political correctness to sell organic produce. But when your living paycheck to paycheck, such philosophies are a luxury that one cannot always afford. At this point, only food education seems to be applicable. Teaching people that fruit and vegetables, organic or not, is better than processed food. So who’s responsible for getting this information out?

That’d be the state and federal governments. As we’ve discussed here before, the governments don’t always put the people’s interest in front of food companies. But a decent program is WIC, which is run by the USDA.

Noelle, I’m not sure if any of this helps, but I hope it gives you a good idea of some of the issues that are involved in food and the lower class.

For some background information, read this article about food and poverty to get a good idea on what poverty does to a person.


Organics, Ethics, and Snobbery

I’ve been thinking about Julie Powell‘s op-ed in the New York Times all weekend. (If you want to read it, but don’t want to sign up for the New York Time, use my sign-in…login: accidental / password: hedonist). In her article, Julie posits many ideas, some of which I agree with, many of which I don’t.

The basic premise, as far as I can discern, is that there’s a percieved air of privledge that comes from shoping for organic foods at places, and that some people have been wrongly equating that privledge with eating well. Julie’s idea is that one can eat well regardless of where the food is purchased. Good eating and good food are the provence of all, not just for those who can afford to shop exclusively at Whole Foods. To this idea, I completely agree.

The issue, she leads us to believe, is that she’s trying to equate purchasing motivations with ethics and misses the entire point of organic foods and the larger isssues with supermarkets and the food distribution industry.

There are several issues here, and I don’t wish to muddy any of them, but all are important to note when it comes to this.

It is my belief that most individual food purchasing choices are based off of the following factors:

  • - accessibility
  • - cost
  • - knowledge of product

The first two items here are mostly out of the control of the individual consumer. I cannot go in to a Kroger’s and demand they sell dry aged beef, or that they sell milk at a lower price. Well, I could, but they would shrug off my requests unless they were done en masse. If enough people asked for dry aged beef, or if enough people stopped buying milk at higher prices, then the market (both literal and economic) would make the necessary adjustments.

The only item that an individual consumer does have control over is the third item, knowledge of product. The issue with this is that the majority of consumers, both rich and poor have put their faith in the quality of their food in the hands of the purchasers for the major supermarket chains. We, as a consumer culture, have given the responsibility of finding quality food to complete strangers whose number one priority is to make money for their stockholders.

The Organic movement came about in response to this. Folks who initiated the organic movement realized that many of the foods that had become industrialized (in order to feed the millions of consumers at grocery stores) had been made cheaper at the cost of quality, environment and sustainability. When the organic food industry finally was able to sell foods on a regular basis, the economic model in place that delivered the product to a person’s plate added more to the cost of the food.

Have some organic companies gone overboard? Absolutely. In some instances, some foods marked as organic clearly don’t need to be labeled as such (do we really need organic sodas?). In other instances, industrial farms simply make a better product.

But the larger issue here is that the Organic movement (and to a lesser extent Whole Foods)is a direct response to many of the unethical behaviors of the supermarket industry. In short, those who believe in the organic movement have decided to take back the responsibility for knowing the foods that they eat.

The issue here is not those who can afford to shop at Whole Foods versus those who can “only” afford to shop at Key Food or Western Beef (or Safeway or Piggly Wiggly). The issue here is knowledge of food, regardless of where one shops. Whole Foods does allow, rightfully or wrongly, one to feel better about where they shop, because Whole Foods sells themselves as a corporation willing to do the extra leg work needed to assure good food and good practices. This costs money, but allows a person to put faith back in their food retailer (On a bit of a tangent, I think that such faith in Whole Foods is a bit lazy, but this is simply my own opinion).

I think Julie is a bit wrong here, finding classism in an issue where no classism truly exists. Good food can be had anywhere. Give a person an egg, some flour, some milk and some butter and they can own the world. I know of no one (and admittedly, my sampling population is lacking) who looks down at folks who buy non-organic foods or shop at places other than Whole Food’s and Farmers’ Markets. When Julie writes “What makes the snobbery of the organic movement more insidious is that it equates privilege not only with good taste, but also with good ethics.” Whole Foods and other purveyor of organic goods are simply a market response to a food industry clouded in darkness, rather than a concerted division between the haves and have nots.

What I do find is people putting less and less faith in the food distribution network. People are growing tired of the choices we’re being given, as well as the various farming and selling practices done in our name. The issue, as I can see it, is ensuring a level of transparency in the food distribution network that allow consumers to make informed purchases, regardless of purchasing ability. Transparency, I should note, that doesn’t currently exist, nor does the industry seem too keen on allowing.

UPDATED: Needed to alleviate some glaring double and triple negatives, and to clarify some thoughts.